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Added: October/21/2005 at 11:44pm | IP Logged Quote afifm

Some of our users complained that their users id and passwords are sent in the clear. So we decided to invest in an SSL certificate from Verisign. It has been tested fine with all forms and pages in ASPProtect version 6. The only remaining page which I am not sure how to protect is the home page. Let's say my home page is http://www.MyDomain.com/index.asp. When the user goes to this link he/she will be presented with the check_user_inc.asp page so he/she can enter their ID and PW. So how to make the login information send from this page thru HTTPS?



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Added: October/22/2005 at 12:04am | IP Logged Quote cwilliams

whether you use SSL or not really does not effect aspprotect in any way

I say, the smart thing to do there is too not start them off at a http:// url

one way to do it is put a simple ASP redirect on that default page and send them to an SSL version of the page instead...

http://www.powerasp.com/content/code-snippets/redirects.asp

another way would be not start them off on a protected page right off the bat and offer links to the the protected area...

in my opinion thats pretty odd to be starting them off on a protected page anyway
SLL maybe, but protected right from the time they hit the default page of the site.. thats just odd.. usually you want o say a little something about the site your at and then link people to protected areas or give them a login form which posts to a protected area.


Regardless if you always want users at your site under https:// you should have code on every single page in your site checking the url info at every page load. Then if someone ever hits a page and is not using the https://  you can do something about it like redirect them to the SSL home poge or redirect to that same page but with the https:// in the url..



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Added: October/25/2005 at 3:37pm | IP Logged Quote cwilliams

here is the next response to this which was emailed to me but should have been posted here


From: Mo Afifi
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 4:47 PM
To: CJWSoft Support Info
Subject: Re: CJWSoft Support Info : SSL - Verisign Certifcates

Hello,

Thank you for responding to my posting. In the second line of your response you said “not start them off at an http:// url". I think what you meant is to "not start them off at an https:// url". If this is your intention then I agree with you 100%. I have revised my pages so the users will go first to a non-https page and then make a choice either to use secure or non-secure access. Please note that the site is not intended to be completely SSL protected but only the sign up pages. I have another problem though when I click on the "Secure Log In" and enter my log in information; the entire subsequent URLs will have https:// in them which I could not shake off. As I said the intention was to use the https for sign in only.

 I realize that this issue does not have any thing to do with your product, but any input will be appreciated. Best,

 Mo



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Added: October/25/2005 at 3:42pm | IP Logged Quote cwilliams

I did not make a mistake.. what I typed is what I meant to say. I think maybe you are taking it the opposite way as I explained it.

Regardless,

What you want to do... logging them in under https and then having them continue though the site under http is not possible.

It doesn't work that. way. As far as the webserver is concerned https is a totally different site than http and each have their own unique set of application and session variables.

In a sense no different than www.somesite.com is different then somesite.com (each has their own unique set of application and session variables as well).

Now, because of the nature of Forms Based Authentication session varibles created under one will not carry over to the over and thus no password access if you switch over from a secure url to a non secure url.

If you want them logging in under SSL you need to keep them under SSL.

That is not to say there is some ultra complex scenario to mimic the session variables on the non secure side of things (possible with a complex http post to a non secure page from the scure page telling it what variables to create and set), but doing so means a ton of work and also has security concerns of its own.



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Added: October/25/2005 at 3:48pm | IP Logged Quote afifm

Thank you for the response to my question. In the mean time if I can figure any workaround I will post it here.



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